"What I really want to see is people taking members of their own group to task." <--- agreed. But from where I have been and the things I have seen, it really isn't clear to me how the blind should best lead the blind. This isn't a merely matter of one bro telling another bro to chill with the sexist comments he's making in his workplace. It's about fundamentally changing the mental frameworks within people's heads. Telling some one to chill with unwanted talk doesn't change their brains. If anything, it reinforces it, which is why we are looking at what has been unfolding for the past N years. (too lazy/busy to dig of research showing this but the backfiring of even small corrections is A Thing).
I think the heart of what I am really saying is this is NOT a battle to be won on facebook or by using quick slogans that are made for the internet era. If anything, facebook/twitter/etc are a quagmire. This is only a battle that can be won through the hard slog of face-to-face dialogue. But from what you are saying, I think we pretty violently agree on this. ;)
But this is not a battle that will be won by reinventing the wheel. People will need to READ. They will need to seek out words of wisdom that carefully explain the Thing. If the solution was easy, we wouldn't be in a crisis right now that requires you to wonder what in hell can you say.
I guess my point is that I'm pretty damn uncomfortable with the fact that much of america suddenly woke up to something they don't know how to tamp back down -- and this waking up occurred after years, decades, (centuries) of being told "Hey, America, there's a problem" and being ignored. Right now, the best solution I can offer is for everyone to take a chill and go spend the rest of the summer quietly educating themselves, and then we can all come back and talk on the first day of Autumn.
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I think the heart of what I am really saying is this is NOT a battle to be won on facebook or by using quick slogans that are made for the internet era. If anything, facebook/twitter/etc are a quagmire. This is only a battle that can be won through the hard slog of face-to-face dialogue. But from what you are saying, I think we pretty violently agree on this. ;)
But this is not a battle that will be won by reinventing the wheel. People will need to READ. They will need to seek out words of wisdom that carefully explain the Thing. If the solution was easy, we wouldn't be in a crisis right now that requires you to wonder what in hell can you say.
I guess my point is that I'm pretty damn uncomfortable with the fact that much of america suddenly woke up to something they don't know how to tamp back down -- and this waking up occurred after years, decades, (centuries) of being told "Hey, America, there's a problem" and being ignored. Right now, the best solution I can offer is for everyone to take a chill and go spend the rest of the summer quietly educating themselves, and then we can all come back and talk on the first day of Autumn.
But that isn't going to happen so... *shrug*