Hot Issues
May 22nd, 2013 02:25 pmDad brought up the heating situation again, and it leaves me feeling faintly murderous. Not because he brought it up -- I'm glad that his brain engaged when I got the permit, because there's been a lot of "oh, yeah, that'll work, we'll figure it out" instead of actually trying to figure it out and answer my questions -- but because trying to research this question is HELL.
Heating appears to be an, ahem, hot-button issue in the home improvement world. People are zealous about what method is the 'best', cheapest, most efficient, most comfortable, etc, with all the normal annoyances associated with zealotry. I see blog responses that start with "It's always been known," or "X is clearly superior in every way," or "Oh, I can't believe you were idiotic enough to let your client do THAT." Then there's all sorts of 'most people experience' comments that have no basis in research; arguments over whether people are defining radiation right, and on and on and on. No one compares like to like -- they talk about an insulated house with heating system X and a non-insulated house with system Y, or compare to east coast propane prices (entirely irrelevant to me!) or or or or. I see directly contradictory statements given as fact on different fora all the time.
(My current favorite is the one that says "Electric baseboard has always been known to be the worst for efficiency... but sometimes radiant can be worse." One: that sentence doesn't actually compute. Two: it has NOT always been known. Three: Those are my two real options, damn it).
If I could afford it, I'd seriously consider getting another natural gas fireplace insert and hiring a mason to rebuild my current fireplace/chimney such that it could have an insert sticking out each side (one into the living room, one into the studio). As-is, I'm afraid a little freestanding gas stove would be too spendy, and I don't know where I'd put it.
Electric radiant floor under tile prices out to about $500 more than a fancy electric baseboard (with laminate flooring, but it could be . Something durable and cleanable). That's totally worth it if it makes a better experience and doesn't cost me an arm and a leg every month, but I can't tell. And I need to figure this out, because it impacts the electrical plan I haven't submitted yet AND the level we need to build the floor to.
My only real tester for electric radiant is my parents' bathroom, which is a quarter the size of the space I'm going to be heating (and who knows how much of their bill is the floor). I have electric baseboards -- dull, ugly, cheap -- but the new electric/hydronic ones are supposed to heat more evenly and more quietly. I've never seen one in action.
I just want good information, for crying out loud. It's not magic; it's thermodynamics!
Heating appears to be an, ahem, hot-button issue in the home improvement world. People are zealous about what method is the 'best', cheapest, most efficient, most comfortable, etc, with all the normal annoyances associated with zealotry. I see blog responses that start with "It's always been known," or "X is clearly superior in every way," or "Oh, I can't believe you were idiotic enough to let your client do THAT." Then there's all sorts of 'most people experience' comments that have no basis in research; arguments over whether people are defining radiation right, and on and on and on. No one compares like to like -- they talk about an insulated house with heating system X and a non-insulated house with system Y, or compare to east coast propane prices (entirely irrelevant to me!) or or or or. I see directly contradictory statements given as fact on different fora all the time.
(My current favorite is the one that says "Electric baseboard has always been known to be the worst for efficiency... but sometimes radiant can be worse." One: that sentence doesn't actually compute. Two: it has NOT always been known. Three: Those are my two real options, damn it).
If I could afford it, I'd seriously consider getting another natural gas fireplace insert and hiring a mason to rebuild my current fireplace/chimney such that it could have an insert sticking out each side (one into the living room, one into the studio). As-is, I'm afraid a little freestanding gas stove would be too spendy, and I don't know where I'd put it.
Electric radiant floor under tile prices out to about $500 more than a fancy electric baseboard (with laminate flooring, but it could be . Something durable and cleanable). That's totally worth it if it makes a better experience and doesn't cost me an arm and a leg every month, but I can't tell. And I need to figure this out, because it impacts the electrical plan I haven't submitted yet AND the level we need to build the floor to.
My only real tester for electric radiant is my parents' bathroom, which is a quarter the size of the space I'm going to be heating (and who knows how much of their bill is the floor). I have electric baseboards -- dull, ugly, cheap -- but the new electric/hydronic ones are supposed to heat more evenly and more quietly. I've never seen one in action.
I just want good information, for crying out loud. It's not magic; it's thermodynamics!