The return of the bride of bad sketch

[shadesofmauve]

Okay! After having a wide-variety of things pointed out to me, and spending an hour last night with my tired-but-mostly-biddable sweetheart, I've some different options for how to have the guy sit.


notice: because of changes in the guy, lady's torso/arm is no longer quite right. I'll fix that *after* I have him down, since he's being way more problematic. Ditto for his left arm. I did work on her foot/leg and move the arm she's leaning on backwards (after E and I both tried it as it was and pronounced it awkward).

Also, the unfortunate tighty-whitey look is just an artifact of me trying to figure out exact hip angles.



Preferences? Which one looks more natural, comfortable, cute... ?


Working this out with Erik last night was a wonderfull lesson in how Different Bodies are Different.

I know, I know, you'd think I'd have figured that out already -- after all, it didn't take me that long to figure out that most people have legs of roughly the same length and ten toes -- but it's worth a reminder, especially when it comes to odd things we don't normally notice, like hip rotation. If E sits with his legs out in front of him, his toes want to turn out. Mine are happy pointing up (I tried to ask about this with regard to knees, but he was exhausted and not really understanding and started to seriously over-splain something about guys and scrotal pressure, which was, er, not what I was asking about at all).

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[shadesofmauve]

Ah, okay! I've adressed the first point in the new version of three (can't post it 'till Monday; file's at work). Erik actually saw a similar thing, but ONLY when he was looking at the two versions compared, which was interesting. I think drawing in his arm (crossed across the bent knee) will also help with relaxation.

I like the usage of 'approach angle' there. Nice. But did he mention scrotal pressure? *g*

And now I'm really curious (in a totally moving-beyond-the-drawing way). When I sit with my legs splayed my toes point up. When E does it, his toes point out. (note: there is no groin constriction in either stance; scrotal pressure is not relevant!). Which way do your toes go? I'm thinking it may have something to do w/ hip placement and rotation, and I wonder if there's a sex-based tendency (caused by narrower/wider hips), or if it's more of an individual variation.

[westrider.livejournal.com]

I just got down on the floor and tried sitting like that. My feet were definitely more comfortable splayed out, but it felt like it mostly had to do with the position of my knees (they were a little too extended with my toes up) and the shape of the muscles on the back of my calves (The point of greatest curvature is the contact with the floor when my toes are up, and there's a flatter area off to the outside, so they tend to roll out).

[shadesofmauve]

(I am so lucky to have dear friends to perform these silly experiments for me. *hugs*)

It may be that my right leg at least is more comfy toes-up because I lack calf-definition. On the left I have a lot of definition, but the Kellington-calves also tend to be very round -- I'm going to hit a high curvature point whether I keep my leg straight or not.

[westrider.livejournal.com]

*hugback* Always glad to help!

[stasia]

Okay. I just sat down and looked at my feetsies and then Geordie saw me and laughed and said, "You're talking to your friend again, aren't you?" and waited until I stood up and sat down himself to look at his own feets.

So.

My toes point outward, just a bit. Less than 45 degrees from vertical, but enough to be tilted. I have big calves (especially for my height - I'm 4'9" with 14" calves.) so that's a large part of it, I think.

Geordie's toes also pointed out, a bit more than mine - maybe almost 45 degrees. He's got more calf definition than I! He shifted around a bit and says that he thinks this is more to do with calf size than anything else.

I'd say this is more individual variation and calf size than anything sex-linked.

*grin*

Stasia